Interesting points raised

On my last post I mentioned what a thrill it was to have a prayer answered so quickly. But unfortunately someone close to me, who means well, took exception to it. He basically in effect said I was living under “bondage”.  In this post I will hopefully shed some light to his misguided thinking. While I am under no  illusion that it will open his eyes to scripture, it must nevertheless be brought out.

In his first point he says “We are not under ‘law’, but under the ‘law of the spirit’ in Christ Jesus. It has set me free from the law of sin and death” (Rom.8:2) My first point is if we are not under law then I guess I’m free to murder, steal, commit adultery, etc, right? After all I’m not under the “law” any more , right?  Ofcourse not.  The great 10 commandment Law is for OUR BENEFIT to live holy Christ like lives! Surely we can live a holy life and ignore His great Law right? Again ofcourse not.  What the verse means , is that we are no longer under the “Mosaic law”. Specifically, it’s rituals and sacrifices. Christ was the ultimate sacrifice so we don’t need to sacrifice animals anymore for our sins. When it says “set us free from the law of sin and death” it means the sacrifical law  , which atoned our sins and completed it with an animal death. Who can say the “Moral Law” has sin and death in it?  Ofcourse NO ONE.

Next  he raised the point Paul says we can eat whatever meat as long as it’s not been offered to an idol. But this can’t mean “abomination” meat such as swine and mouse. Why? Because Paul himself said he believes ALL things WRITTEN IN THE LAW and in the Prophets (Acts:24:14) When Paul was brought before the Jewish leaders and Pharisees, they would have most certainly accused him of breaking the law of eating unclean meats, right? I mean they had spies and they were watching this “trader” and his every step. Now, think about this for a moment, wouldn’t Paul be the BIGGEST HYPOCRITE in the world if he was telling Christians to go ahead and eat abomination meats if they want and he himself religiously obeyed the “eating clean meat commandment” . Further more the  law of clean meats is for OUR benefit! The Lord knows such things as swine and mouse  have a “large” degree of parasites and other “bad” things for our health. So, to summarize, (1 cor.10:23-31) is talking about things other than abomination meats . I for one will not call the Lord a liar and tell Him “oh yeah Lord, you said it in (Isaiah 66:17) but I DON’T BELIEVE YOUR WORDS”  because you change everything”  that’s foolishness.

Again Paul is talking about not letting anyone judge you in  food and drink or feasts, or new moon, or Sabbaths (with an S) because these were very much a part of the rituals and customs of the Mosiac laws. Once we become a Christian we are “free” from observing those laws. Ofcourse we cannot be free from the aforementioned abomination meats. The Lord said he will destroy those people and I must believe His words (and His answer to my prayer about it) Regarding Sabbath, notice in the true greek translation it say Sabbath(S) not THE SABBATH DAY. The Mosiac customs had several “annual” Sabbaths that were observed. Paul was saying we are now free to obey them or not. NOT THE HOLY SEVENTH DAY SABBATH!

Again,  is it not easy to understand when Paul says “why….do you subject yourself to regulations, do not taste,touch,or do not handle” He is talking about controversial foods and drinks of the day NOT about abomination food, that were condemned by our Lord to eat. Doesn’t it  make foolish sense to you that our Lord , first says,  He’ll destroy people who eat abomination foods, then our Lord wishy washy CHANGES HIS MIND??  The Lord changes NOT! As scripture says. Here’s something to REALLY think about. Let’s say for argument sake your right. The Lord has now OK’d the eating of swine amd mouse. Why are they STILL some of the most filthly foods in the world to eat today? The Lord didn’t ok these foods so we could  HARM ourselves! Ask any Food scientist who is honest. Or better yet google “the dangers of eating pork”. It’ll amaze you. Our Lord KNOWS what He’s talking about.

 Your sounding like the blood sacrifice of our Lord was just to OK everything  and just “love Him” YOUR way and all will be fine. That’s exactly Saul’s thinking remember?And how did the Lord respond to disobedience? The Lord wanted obedience and STILL want’s it.

Lastly,  your “this puts a lid on it”— “according to the commandments and doctrines of men”  Think about what that says. Is the words of the Lord considered a “commandment of man”? Ofcourse not. Your idea that somehow I’m getting hoodwinked into thinking the Lord ‘s commandments are from man is not correct. The Lord and HIS WORD is my guide NOT man. I’m sorry you got involved with a church that you felt held you in “bondage” but I feel free and alive and am very happy to know He answers my prayers. Why? because I try to  follow and obey the Lord’s teaching.(John 14:21)

Stay away from PORK. I didn’t say that the Lord did. (Isaiah 66:17)

2 Responses to “Interesting points raised”

  1. brosunshine Says:

    You’re correct, re: “The Lord changes NOT! As scripture says.”

    “Doesn’t it make foolish sense to you that our Lord , first says, He’ll destroy people who eat abomination foods, then our Lord wishy washy CHANGES HIS MIND??” The Lord changes NOT! As scripture says.

    The Lord will NEVER change; but His covenants with mankind DO – that’s why GOD told Peter “…DON’T you call ‘UN-CLEAN’ what I NOW call ‘CLEAN’…!!”
    CHRISTIANS are born of GOD into His (GOD’s) ‘NEW’ covenant – having THEIR faith in the blood of Jesus – GOD’s very own spotless lamb – given for all the sin of mankind).
    We ‘CHRISTIANS’ can either enter into the liberty of the NEW covenant IN Jesus Christ
    – or deny Christ, and live as a lost gentile (WITHOUT the Jewish Laws)
    – or deny Christ, and live as a lost Jew (UNDER their Jewish Laws)
    – or deny Christ, become a Jew and get circumcised (UNDER their Jewish Laws)

  2. godsloveandlaw Says:

    brosunshine, thanks for the response. Interesting comments. In regard to your quote about Peter, I believe God was telling him to accept the gentiles. It actually had nothing to do with eating clean or unclean food.I agree the New Covenant is in place because of our Lord’s sacrafice. But importantly that doesn’t mean His great moral Laws are done away with, on the contrary, they are firmly established with His own blood.The dietary Laws given are good sound, healthy advice to live with. No doubt. We have liberty in Christ, but NOT liberty to sin (Romans 3:20) (1John 3:4) It is interesting to note that the word “Sin” in the greek begins with the first three letters “Ham”. Yours in Christ, Rob

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