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Note: This is an advanced study for present truth believers. If you are not this may be hard to understand or confusing subject. 

Recently we had another discussion about the 144,000 Truth. Specifically – are there really only going to be 144,000 sealed and escape the Ezek.9 church judgment? Or will there be more than 144,000, the  “those with” who also survive the judgment and come along with the 144,000 from the SDA church. Kind of like in football, the second team, if you will. They don’t qualify to be among the 144,000 but they are spared for their faithfulness.

But one of Mother’s (SDA church) teachings is exactly this — there will be more than 144,000 sealed from the church. So does the Lord’s Elijah message teach anything new? The same as what Mother believes in this regard? Let us find out.

To be clear, the “only 144,000” proclaimers do believe in the “those with” but they are the SDA pioneers who are resting in their graves, awaiting the special resurrection of Daniel 12:2-3. These will be raised to take up their work once more (Testimonies, vol.7, p.17).

The message tells us this is an extremely important doctrine. Whether we correctly know this truth or not is consequential and the case can be made it is also salvational. The message says it’s a “life or death matter to all”, so we dare not carelessly study this, but take pains to know it correctly.

“If we do not understand the subject of the 144,000, we may not be sealed, for it would be worthless to understand it after the sealing, just as it would be of no value to understand the beast and his image after his work on earth is finished.” (SRod, Vol. 1 p.14)

…Its dominant doctrinal concern being the truth of the 144,000, and a correct understanding of it being a life-and-death matter to all, the Rod unfolds it from several different angles, each urging the Denomination to prepare for the glorious deliverance of the saints and against the inglorious destruction of the sinners as foretokened by the marking and slaying recorded in Ezekiel 9.” (SRod Tract, p.5-6)

“The Enemy will try everything conceivable to confuse, becloud, and cover up the Truth, especially on the subject of the 144,000.” (White House Recruiter, p.33)

Is that not the truth?!

Satan has found inroads into our people and has caused so much confusion beclouding and covering up our subject! This alone should tell us our great adversary has a counterfeit teaching among us on the 144,000 truth!

The question is –can we find out just what this counterfeit is? How does it appear as “truth” to us but is a fake? Let’s find out.

He has always produced his counterfeit in God’s great beautiful things, such as Marriage, Sabbath, Rainbow and even including the 144,000 truth. Satan knows God’s word says it’s a “life and death matter to all”, so we can be sure he’s been at work among us on this truth! And who does he work through? Proclaimed “friends” of the Gospel!

Ok, it is clear we need to know this subject. The Rod confirms it with the following –

“It is the intention of this book to reveal the truth of the 144,000 mentioned in Revelation 7, but the chief object of this publication is to bring about a reformation among God’s people.” (Srod, vol.1, preface)

In regards to the 144,000, we are to know –who they are, what they are, and where they will be going. The message promises we will know all this –

“The primary purpose of The Shepherd’s Rod is to unlock the long-concealed mystery concerning the ever-challenging and much discussed subject of the 144,000 (Rev. 14:1), with the central object in view of bringing about among God’s people that “thorough reformation” foretold by the Spirit of Prophecy (Testimonies, Vol. 8, p. 251)…” (SRod Tract, p.5)

“Besides their racial lineage of identification there are the words “first,”“fruits,”“servants of God,”“sealed” and“standing on Mount Zion” by which to identify who the 144,000 are and what they are. Obviously they are called fruits because they are the result of the“harvest,” the work which separates the tares from the wheat.” (JL, no.6, p.2)

“The subject in the “Rod” is “The 144,000 and A Call for Reformation,” based on Rev. 7; Ezek.9; Isa.63 ; 66; 16,19,20.” (1 SC, no.8, p.2)

What causes this division doctrinally between the “literalists” (those who say it will be just as it reads in Rev. 7—144,000 total from the SDA church at judgment) and the “those with proclaimers” (those who explain it as meaning just the Israelites in the SDA church, the Gentiles will be sealed as well, making the number more than 144,000 from the church) ?

Let us now let the Spirit of Truth have His way with us

In this post we will look at why we think this confusion exists. We’ll see it from the following angles, namely —

1- The Israel/Gentile viewpoint

2- The specific references , the clarity and volume of them, as to one side or the other

3- Adding them all up, to get our preponderance of evidence. The weight of evidence decision

“The weight of evidence” is the only fair and final criterion worthy of a Christian who must ever make an investigation for himself concerning purported truth.” (Answerer, vol.1, Q-6)

Israel/Gentile Issue

Recently on our FB ministry group—Truth Tellers, we had another discussion of the 144,000 and those with. A Black sister, an admitted present truth believer, brought up the point that “obviously” she won’t be one of the 144,000 but will be one with. Unfortunately, this line of thinking is all too common among us Elijah messengers.

This idea that blacks (or any other color) do not have the bloodline of Abraham has been fed to many DSDA down through the decades (after brother Houteff died) from false teachers. The supposed idea here is that you must be white to qualify as an Israelite, and because Rev. 7 only talks about the 12 tribes being sealed from the house of Israel (the church), and the tribes back then were only white (although that is disputed).

So conveniently this idea of “those with” fits nicely to some who may need to depend on this teaching as a way to believe they will be sealed and saved. This is one of the “go-to” arguments for more than 144,000  sealed. But let’s view this from the WORD and not our ideas passed down to us from false leaders of old times past.

Early Christianity

https://www.allaboutreligion.org/history-of-christianity-in-africa-faq.htm

It is a well known historical fact that as early as 50 AD, many early Christians, largely consisting of Jews converted to Christ, went down into northern Africa for relocation and missionary tours. This alone should lend to the certainty that they co-mingled with some of the natives there. Intermarriage took place no doubt.

“And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall beat off from the channel of the river unto the stream of Egypt, and ye shall be gathered one by one, O ye children of Israel.” (Isaiah 27:12)

“And it will be said of Zion, “This one and that one were born in her.” The Most High himself will establish her. When He registers the peoples, the LORD will record, “This one was born there.” Selah” (Psalms 87:5-6)

As we read, this work of collecting the saints (144,000) is going on in His church as we speak, from all nations where He has scattered them.

“Therefore say: ‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says: I will gather you from the nations and bring you back from the countries where you have been scattered, and I will give you back the land of Israel again.’ (Ezek. 11:17)

Both SOP and the Rod always refers to the church as “Israel”. Some of the many references —

“In order to be purified and to remain pure, Seventh-day Adventists must have the Holy Spirit in their hearts and in their homes. The Lord has given me light that when the Israel of today humble themselves before Him, and cleanse the soul-temple from all defilement, He will hear their prayers in behalf of the sick and will bless in the use of His remedies for disease.”(Testimonies, vol. 9, p.164)

“God will have a people pure and true in the mighty sifting soon to take place we shall be better able to measure the strength of Israel. The signs reveal that the time is near when the Lord will manifest that His fan is in His hand, and He will thoroughly purge His floor.”(Testimonies, vol. 5, p.80)

“But the Israel of our time have the same temptations to scorn reproof and hate counsel as had ancient Israel. They too often turn a deaf ear to the words that God has given His servants for the benefit of those who profess the truth.” (Testimonies, vol. 4, p.165)

The desolation of Jerusalem stands as a solemn warning before the eyes of modern Israel, that the corrections given through His chosen instruments cannot be disregarded with impunity.”(Ibid, p.166)

“… there are two separations ––one from the church (Israelites), and one from the Gentiles, —those who escape and those who are gathered in — then the former are the first fruits and the later the second fruits — those of Revelation 7:4, 7-9, one from the tribes of Israel, and one from the Gentile nations.” (JL, no.2, p.6-7)

“The city” is figurative of Judah and Israel, the church in which are to be found the 144,000 servants of God(Testimonies to Ministers, p. 445) those who are to be called by another name after the unworthy servants are slain. And as the 144,000 are the first fruits (Rev. 14:4) of the harvest, they are the“escaped” of the Isaiah 66:19 and of Ezekiel 9.” (Tract no.14, p.19-20)

“In that day shall the branch of the Lord be beautiful and glorious, and the fruit of the earth shall be excellent and comely for them that are escaped of Israel.” Isa. 4:2.Note that this glorious promise is for those that shall escape (Israel–the 144,000).” (SRod, vol. 1, p.218)

We are clearly told that our SDA church is– Israel. Ok, let’s look at what else the message says about this subject —

“Regardless, therefore, whether one be Jew or Gentile, he can have no part in the kingdom of Christ, save through the second birth, by which he becomes one of the seed of Abraham.  This spiritual transformation, nevertheless, does not fix anyone’s racial identity and tribal  lineage. 

It can not, in other words, make one Judaite if he is not descended of Judah, or make him Ephraimite, if he is not descended of Ephraim.  Consequently, the 144,000, being of the sons of Jacob, cannot be of the Gentile nations.  They therefore, first of all, are lineal descendants of Jacob, though Not Necessarily of the Present Identifiable Jewish Stock…

…Clearly, therefore, in each instance most of the sons of Jacob lost their racial distinctiveness.  As the Lord, however, has ever kept the genealogies  of all nations, especially of the sons of Jacob, He will, as He has promised, “make mention of Rahab and Babylon to them that know me: behold Philistia, and Tyre, with Ethiopia; this man was born there.  And of Zion it shall be said, This and that man was born in her: and the highest himself shall establish her.  The Lord shall count, when He writeth up the people, that this man was born there. Selah.” Ps. 87:4-6.

Thus just as obvious as strange is the fact that no one today but the recognized Jew can vouch for his ancestry, with the result that the 144,000 can be gathered from almost every nation, kindred, tongue, and people, and yet be of the sons of Jacob!” (Tract 8, p.7-11)

The lesson is clear–God alone has kept track of the Jewish lineage and knows who is who, and they are from many nations around the world. But now let’s look at something that is profound. The following will prove that there cannot be “pure Gentiles” in our church.

“We are not to conclude that the Jews are the only descendants of Abraham. Those who are fortunate enough to have this revelation brought to them, are the people. There is no other safe conclusion if God causes the prophecies to be written, sealed, and then unsealed at His will and at the time appointed…

…The Christian church herself is an upshoot of the Jewish church and nation — the Apostles and her followers, up to about 35 A.D. were all Jews. Then it was that again a multitude of Jews lost their identity by calling themselves “Christians.” Comparatively speaking, only a few Jews, from the Kingdom of Judah, have preserved their national title, Jews.

The descendants of the early Christian Jews and the descendants of the ten tribes, down the stream of time must have increased to a great innumerable multitude, for Abraham’s seed was to be as the sand of the sea for multitude. It is, therefore, obvious that the few identified Jews of today are not the only descendants of Abraham’s, but that many of the Gentiles must be of Abraham.

Since this mixed up situation exists, hardly any one can really say for sure that he is not one of Abraham’s children. Perhaps many of the nations whom the world calls Gentiles are the children of Abraham. We do not know for sure who is who. God, however, has kept a perfect genealogical record…” (1 TG, no.37, p.11-12)

Thus it is that all who know about this message have the bloodline of Abraham! Now, you ask –“Well what about the ones in the church who don’t know the message? They could be Gentiles so will God destroy them anyway?

The message says —

“Just as soon as we as a Denomination awake to the fact that “many nations shall be joined to the Lord,” and be His people just that soon will the theory of only first fruits die out. And just as soon as this message reaches every church member, just that soon will the purification take place.” (TG, vol. 1, no.12, p.26)

Conclusion — There can be NO PURE GENTILES in our church. Sadly, although the message will reach every member, the very few (144,000) will accept it and live it.

The message NEVER states such things as “mixed church”, “Gentiles in the church”, etc., it only says we are the “Israel of today”.

Bottomline –This idea that there are pure Gentiles in our church fails from the Word of God.

(…To be continued in part 2)

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